Comments on: The Internet Piracy Pyramid http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/ Plugged into the net - Technology, gaming and Apple news Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:36:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Filesharefreak.com | So, you want to be a Pirate, do ya! | FileShareFreak http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-488 Filesharefreak.com | So, you want to be a Pirate, do ya! | FileShareFreak Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:04:32 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-488 [...] http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/ - Pirate scene ‘hierarchy’ explained. [...] [...] http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/ - Pirate scene ‘hierarchy’ explained. [...]

]]> By: Top Pirate Reveals Warez Scene Secrets, Attracts MPAA Lawyer’s Attention | TorrentFreak http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-487 Top Pirate Reveals Warez Scene Secrets, Attracts MPAA Lawyer’s Attention | TorrentFreak Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:50:04 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-487 [...] week, an administrator of a Topsite (an important guy, near to the top of the so-called ‘Piracy Pyramid‘) linked to some very famous release groups broke cover in a very rare interview, seemingly [...] [...] week, an administrator of a Topsite (an important guy, near to the top of the so-called ‘Piracy Pyramid‘) linked to some very famous release groups broke cover in a very rare interview, seemingly [...]

]]> By: Balazs http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-486 Balazs Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:06:57 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-486 I didn't see the move, nor the link, if you could find it that would be quite helpfull! I didn’t see the move, nor the link, if you could find it that would be quite helpfull!

]]> By: demexii http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-485 demexii Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:04:43 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-485 I already read it so I knew you didn't make it, however, this line "and I thought this was an interesting bit of emm pdf I thought it would be worthwhile mentioning it" makes it seem as if you didn't make it yourself but found it somewhere. I do believe you should have linked to the movie they have, which is much better than the stupid pdf. I already read it so I knew you didn’t make it, however, this line “and I thought this was an interesting bit of emm pdf I thought it would be worthwhile mentioning it” makes it seem as if you didn’t make it yourself but found it somewhere. I do believe you should have linked to the movie they have, which is much better than the stupid pdf.

]]> By: Balazs http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-484 Balazs Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:08:17 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-484 I would have specifically said that I made the PDF if it was mine, and I only uploaded it to my server because I couldn't find the original link, and I didn't want to have to bother to search through digg, which has an insane amount of stories. I was merely distributing it, like when people upload copies of files to mirror them incase the host server goes down (but I'm not saying that the MPAA's server would go down). I would have specifically said that I made the PDF if it was mine, and I only uploaded it to my server because I couldn’t find the original link, and I didn’t want to have to bother to search through digg, which has an insane amount of stories. I was merely distributing it, like when people upload copies of files to mirror them incase the host server goes down (but I’m not saying that the MPAA’s server would go down).

]]> By: Alias:Kilroy http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-483 Alias:Kilroy Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:55:44 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-483 Sorry, Balazs. I'm not trying to say that crediting the MPAA means that much to me. And I think you DID say it was yours: "So there you have it. For the original and higher quality version you can find the PDF here." (and 'here' links to a page on this domain) The 'original' sounds a lot like you are taking credit for it. But, I could care less if you take credit for it... I am sure that the MPAA loves having it distributed. Regards, Alias:Kilroy Sorry, Balazs.

I’m not trying to say that crediting the MPAA means that much to me.

And I think you DID say it was yours:

“So there you have it. For the original and higher quality version you can find the PDF here.” (and ‘here’ links to a page on this domain)

The ‘original’ sounds a lot like you are taking credit for it.

But, I could care less if you take credit for it… I am sure that the MPAA loves having it distributed.

Regards,
Alias:Kilroy

]]> By: CoRe http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-482 CoRe Mon, 05 Jun 2006 03:28:09 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-482 Actually, that is a very bad piece of example. As already mentioned, vid cams are the lowest on the file-sharing movie chain.(NOT pirating, you can't call ANYTHING a pirate until it had made money by selling it. And you can't group the whole p2p as pirates since very very very very few make ANYTHING off of the sites or software-assuming it's not a piece of software duping people into paying for something that is originally free work). Top sites and "facilitators" can commonly be put together, or spread apart. Again the person who published this without a very mean comment to the creator is promoting stereotypes because each situation could be different. You could have pure server's just working off software, or you could have a site pull info from off separate servers, or have servers do both, etc., etc. File sharer's and downloaders cannot be too seriously taken unless the software is running off of a highspeed LAN set-up. Routers get in the way commonly and the number actually spread from person to person globally is lower then the estimates commonly published. Thank you for steering the masses into the wrong direction yet again :D. Actually, that is a very bad piece of example. As already mentioned, vid cams are the lowest on the file-sharing movie chain.(NOT pirating, you can’t call ANYTHING a pirate until it had made money by selling it. And you can’t group the whole p2p as pirates since very very very very few make ANYTHING off of the sites or software-assuming it’s not a piece of software duping people into paying for something that is originally free work).
Top sites and “facilitators” can commonly be put together, or spread apart. Again the person who published this without a very mean comment to the creator is promoting stereotypes because each situation could be different. You could have pure server’s just working off software, or you could have a site pull info from off separate servers, or have servers do both, etc., etc.
File sharer’s and downloaders cannot be too seriously taken unless the software is running off of a highspeed LAN set-up. Routers get in the way commonly and the number actually spread from person to person globally is lower then the estimates commonly published.
Thank you for steering the masses into the wrong direction yet again :D.

]]> By: Strategic Name Development Product Naming Blog http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-481 Strategic Name Development Product Naming Blog Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:37:50 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-481 <strong>Brand Architecture: The Mac is Back</strong> It appears as though Apple is moving towards a revised Mac-orientated masterbrand (also spelled master brand) architecture with its new brand names starting with “Mac.” I agree with this new nomenclature. The PowerBook G4 laptop now sports ... Brand Architecture: The Mac is Back

It appears as though Apple is moving towards a revised Mac-orientated masterbrand (also spelled master brand) architecture with its new brand names starting with “Mac.” I agree with this new nomenclature. The PowerBook G4 laptop now sports …

]]> By: Balazs http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-480 Balazs Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:26:02 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-480 Its not all wrong, actually I think it's pretty much on the spot, except for what Mark pointed out that most films that I 'acquire' are better quality not made from the back of a theatre and instead are rips from dvd's out in the US, or copied from the actual film reels! Its not all wrong, actually I think it’s pretty much on the spot, except for what Mark pointed out that most films that I ‘acquire’ are better quality not made from the back of a theatre and instead are rips from dvd’s out in the US, or copied from the actual film reels!

]]> By: Anonymous http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-479 Anonymous Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:56:40 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-479 Your guilty of two things: 1) Propetuating an obviously incorrect piece of propoganda from the copywrong nazis, further demonstrating their complete lack of knowledge regarding teh sceeeen. 2) Copywrong infringement for stealing it =P zomglawzoot! Sincerely, Anonymous P.S. I dont forgive. Your guilty of two things:

1) Propetuating an obviously incorrect piece of propoganda from the copywrong nazis, further demonstrating their complete lack of knowledge regarding teh sceeeen.

2) Copywrong infringement for stealing it =P

zomglawzoot!

Sincerely,
Anonymous

P.S. I dont forgive.

]]> By: Balazs http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-478 Balazs Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:43:39 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-478 I downloaded the PDF from the digg article and only viewed it later so I didn't know what website hosted it. I didn't think it would matter. I didn't know that crediting the MPAA means so much to you, and it's not as if I was saying that it's mine! I downloaded the PDF from the digg article and only viewed it later so I didn’t know what website hosted it. I didn’t think it would matter. I didn’t know that crediting the MPAA means so much to you, and it’s not as if I was saying that it’s mine!

]]> By: Alias:Kilroy http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-477 Alias:Kilroy Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:16:46 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-477 Good job stealing that PDF from the MPAA website and not giving credit to them. Good job stealing that PDF from the MPAA website and not giving credit to them.

]]> By: Balazs http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-476 Balazs Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:27:00 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-476 Good point, that's what I was thinking, but I didn't make it so I can't really change it! Good point, that’s what I was thinking, but I didn’t make it so I can’t really change it!

]]> By: Mark Dias http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-475 Mark Dias Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:20:29 +0000 http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/06/03/the-internet-piracy-pyramid/#comment-475 Hey dude, your pyramid at the top is way too simplistic in stating that the "suppliers" are folks with camcorders in the back of cinemas supplying the source material. Camcorder releases are at the very bottom of the piracy food chain since the quality tends to be extremely poor (bad angles, peoples heads in the foreground, sound of clapping, etc). While they are circulated around the net they tend to be ignored by 70-80% of all file sharers. The real high demand suppliers are those who have access to Film reels from inside the cinema which they are able to "borrow" and digitally copy on to their computers. These tend to be of a much higher quality than the fuzzy, hard to see camcorder releases. Even higher up the ladder are those suppliers with access to work prints and unreleased screeners of movies from within the movie studio (eg.Warner Bros.) and these are of an even higher quality (practically DVD quality) and in much demand by filesharers and downloaders in general. Think Stars Wars episode 3 for a good example of this type of supplier. So in closing your pyramid would have been far more informative had you expanded the list of suppliers to incude all types or else someone who doesn't have a clue would easily form the impression that the very foundation of movie piracy starts with nothing more than a $99 dollar camcorder. Hey dude, your pyramid at the top is way too simplistic in stating that the “suppliers” are folks with camcorders in the back of cinemas supplying the source material. Camcorder releases are at the very bottom of the piracy food chain since the quality tends to be extremely poor (bad angles, peoples heads in the foreground, sound of clapping, etc). While they are circulated around the net they tend to be ignored by 70-80% of all file sharers.

The real high demand suppliers are those who have access to Film reels from inside the cinema which they are able to “borrow” and digitally copy on to their computers. These tend to be of a much higher quality than the fuzzy, hard to see camcorder releases.

Even higher up the ladder are those suppliers with access to work prints and unreleased screeners of movies from within the movie studio (eg.Warner Bros.) and these are of an even higher quality (practically DVD quality) and in much demand by filesharers and downloaders in general. Think Stars Wars episode 3 for a good example of this type of supplier.

So in closing your pyramid would have been far more informative had you expanded the list of suppliers to incude all types or else someone who doesn’t have a clue would easily form the impression that the very foundation of movie piracy starts with nothing more than a $99 dollar camcorder.

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